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MAJOR CHANGES TO TRAIN SERVICES have started and continue for the next 3 years.

Check before you travel especially at weekends.  Additional engineering works will lead to further disruption.  We have added an additional page to this website summarising engineering works but cannot guarantee that it will be uptodate so please also check the Southeastern website.

The summary of changes given below is taken from Thames Link and Southeastern websites.  (For more details see the Thameslink Travel Advice Page and South Eastern’s page on Alternative Travel and Ticket arrangements and January 2015 Ticket Advice).

We also suggest you look at the Greenwich Line Users Group website.

There will also be changes to the layout of London Bridge station see London Bridge Station Map from 12 January 2015

Please let us know if you find any errors on this page or have any points you think could helpfully be added via environment@westcombesociety.org (or comment at the end of our recent rail post here).

Changes to Rail services from 12 January 2015 until August 2016 are as follows:

  • From 12 January 2015 Southeastern services from New Cross, St. Johns, Deptford, Greenwich, Maze Hill and Westcombe Park will no longer have train services to Charing Cross or Waterloo East, and will instead operate to and from Cannon Street.
  • From 12 January 2015 to August 2016, Southeastern services to and from Charing Cross will not call at London Bridge.  It WILL NOT be possible to change from the Greenwich Line trains onto a Charing Cross Service at London Bridge
  • Cannon Street main line and tube stations will be open seven days a week with extended hours to accommodate additional passengers.

Alternatives you might consider include:

  • Use alternative stations from the start of your journey e.g. Charlton, Blackheath, Lewisham or use the DLR to connect to Lewisham
  • Look at the options available at the London end of your journey – for example, walking from your final station, cycling or catching a bus. It is often quicker to walk between stations than many people think.
  • If you are unable to complete your journey by interchanging on National Rail services outside of London, you can use your ticket at specific London Underground stations and on specific bus routes. If you are travelling to Charing Cross or Waterloo East you should change at London Bridge or travel to Cannon Street where your ticket will be accepted on London Underground and eligible bus services between London Bridge and Waterloo/Southwark, between London Bridge and Charing Cross and between Cannon Street and Charing Cross/Embankment. Greenwich line passengers may use the DLR for travel between Greenwich and Lewisham.
  • If you are an Oyster PAYG passenger and want to connect to the underground from the Greenwich area then you may wish to consider using the DLR rather than National Rail to connect to the underground system.  This route may be slightly slower but it is usually cheaper than using National Rail and underground services. (However please note that this route is not covered by the ticket acceptance arrangements detailed below).

The Westcombe Society have also become aware that with changes to timetables and fares in 2015 there are the following positive changes:

  • There are now direct trains from Blackheath to Charing Cross in the evening peak
  • Oyster PAYG is now only charged at peak rates before 9.30am when travelling into London which makes travelling in in the evening peak cheaper than before.
  • Oyster PAYG capping is now a single cap whatever time of day you travel and prices have been reduced. Cost is now £6.40 for zone 1-2 and buses (i.e. if train/tube/DLR is used from North Greenwich, Greenwich, Cutty Sark or Lewisham). Cost is £7.50 for zone 1-3 and buses (i.e. if train/tube journeys use Maze Hill, Westcombe Park, Charlton, Blackheath or other zone 3 stations)

Details of official ticket acceptance on London Underground and bus services whilst Greenwich Line passengers cannot access Charing Cross services from London Bridge.

If you are unable to complete your journey by interchanging on National Rail services outside of London, TfL has agreed to accept tickets at specific London Underground stations and on specific bus routes without you being charged.

Please be aware that if you do use a different route or enter/exit the TfL network at a different location from those listed below you will be charged a fare for the journey.

Systems such as Oyster and ticket barriers will be programmed to allow eligible passengers to use their existing National Rail, Oyster and Contactless tickets/products to pass through barriers on the TfL network.

You can use the following Underground and routes without being charged:

  • Between London Bridge and Waterloo/Southwark on the Jubilee line and on bus services (services 381 and RV1) on the section of route between London Bridge and Waterloo.
  • Between London Bridge and Charing Cross on Jubilee/Bakerloo/Northern Lines and on bus services (services RV1 and 15) on the section of route between London Bridge and Charing Cross.
  • Between Cannon Street and Charing Cross/Embankment on District/Circle lines and on bus services (service 15) on the section of route between Cannon Street and Charing Cross.
  • Between Elephant and Castle and London Bridge on Northern Line and on bus services (service 35, 40, 133 & 343) on the section of route between Elephant and Castle and London Bridge.
  • Between Blackfriars and London Bridge and on bus services (service 17 (Blackfriars North), 381 & RV1 (Blackfriars South)) on the section of route between Blackfriars and London Bridge.
  • Greenwich line passengers may use the DLR for travel between Greenwich and Lewisham.

Holders of Travel Cards can use any route but those with ‘London Terminals’ tickets or using Oyster Pay as you Go of Contactless cards must follow the specified routes to avoid being overcharged.

Southeastern passengers with  season tickets bought before 13 November 2014 that expire after 11 January 2015 will need to get their ticket reissued at their local Southeastern station or at Charing Cross, London Bridge and Cannon Street stations. Further information about getting your ticket reissued can be found on Southeastern’s January 2015 Ticket Advice page or on the Thameslink Travel Advice Page.  ( This also applies to Southern and Thameslink passengers with a season ticket bought before 10 November 2014 that expires after 4 January 2015.)